Assault rifles and Carabines [2200x3035]


That had been my concern too, so numerous guns that are rare no G3 or no FN FAL? For real? Great picture though. Those are battle rifles. What's the difference that is inherent a Battle Rifle ...



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  • That was my question as well, so many rare guns but no G3 or no FN FAL? For real? Great picture though.
  • Those are battle rifles.
  • What's the inherent difference between a Battle Rifle and an Assault Rifle?
  • The concept of the assault rifle is from taking a full power rifle cartridge and shortening it down to a smaller round because the extra power and range was not necessary for most engagements. If you trace the origin of the assault rifle to the STG44 (MP44) and AK47 and their cartridges, you'll note that the STG44s 7.92x33mm Kurz cartridge is a shortened 7.92x57mm (8mm Mauser) cartridge, and the 7.62x39mm cartridge is a shortened version of the 7.62x54mm Rimmed cartridge. So the distinction between assault rifles and battle rifles are that assault rifles use smaller and shortened cartridges when compared to the full sized rifle cartridges that were the standard of the time. Now the NATO 7.62x51mm was a shortened .30-06 (7.62x63mm) cartridge, but the reduction in size wasn't from the same idea that one could reduce the powder load behind the bullet, but rather that advances in gunpowder technology allowed for the same power in a smaller size. Thus the 7.62x51mm is still considered a full sized rifle cartridge and not an assault rifle cartridge.
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  • First time in my life I hear that term, what does it mean? Edit: From what I understand it's more related to caliber (mostly 7.62) and fire-rate. In that case, I don't see why the AK-47 would be an assault-rifle.
  • It's a rifle that uses a full power cartridge, I.E. 7.62x51mm NATO. It's not a strict class of rifle like assault rifle but it's used to differentiate those from heavier guns such as the FAL, G3 or M1 Garand. I agree that those rifles should be in this picture but this might explain why they're not. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_rifle
  • Well thank you for the precision! In that case, why the AK-47 wouldn't be in that category?
  • Well it uses 7.62x39mm which is a little smaller than 7.62x51mm NATO, but mainly I think it's down to barrel length and the (incorrect) assumption that the AK-47 is only fully automatic. Most battle rifles tend to be longer and mostly used in single fire. Like I said, 'battle rifle' is kind of a made up term so what is and what isn't a battle rifle can be a little hazy.
  • I think that, in addition to the difference in chamberings, the difference between them also comes from their intended use/application. I have come to think of a "battle rifle" as a longer range, more precise weapon than an assault rifle (because of this, I view designated marksman rifle and battle rifle as synonyms). Assault rifles are meant to be a short to mid range weapon, which is why they are usually select fire (single, full, and sometimes burst). I am no expert, but I am interested in firearms and would welcome any corrections from those that actually know what they are talking about.
  • I think you've hit the nail on the head really. A more powerful cartridge is going to be suited for longer ranges, whereas a lower power one such as 5.56 is going to perform better at closer ranges because of the lower recoil. Of course it won't be as accurate as a high power cartridge which I guess is why the term battle rifle exists.
  • You've pretty much hit the nail on the head. Many marksman rifles are converted battle rifles of yesteryear (such as the M14), simply adding a bipod and scope in many cases, to help specialize the rifle for ranged work, since the assault rifles can fight at closer ranges more effectively anyway.
  • Okay, TIL, thanks a lot!
  • The Combloc analog to the 7.62x 51 mm would be the 7.62x54R, used by the PKM and Dragunov. Most people don't consider the 7.62x39 a 'full power' cartridge.
  • I guess it's also highly depends of the weight of the projectile.
  • Ah thanks for pointing out that typo, fixed it now.
  • It's 7.62x51mm, I know I'm nitpicking here but there's a difference. 7.62x55mm doesn't exist as far as I know.
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