MFW someone mentions how much was spent on the F35 [OC]


Considering just how long it shall probably be in solution, the expense isn't really that big of a deal. Yeah really it is the lifetime cost for a fleet of 2,500 aircraft. People throw around the cost ...



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  • Considering how long it will likely be in service, the cost isn't really that big of a deal.
  • Yeah seriously it's the lifetime cost for a fleet of 2,500 aircraft. People throw around the cost of the F-35 and don't bother to actually try and turn the number into something you could use to compare it to other planes. Let's say we were buying 2,500 F-22's instead. How much do you think that would cost over the lifetime of the aircraft? How about 2,500 Eurofighters? It's absolutely insane how much people have completely accepted the scathing narrative about the F-35's costs, without even bothering to see how it measures up. Yes, it's expensive. Yes, it's more expensive than the (very optimistic) initial estimates of cost. But is its expense far out of line with the lifetime costs other aircraft of similar capabilities? The answer to that question is no, not at all. It's actually very cheap for what it is.
  • I just did rough math for 2500 F-22s and I cried a little. Only including R&D ($68B), procurement ($138M per), and operating costs for 20,000 hours ($68K an hour). Not accounting for pilot training/mid life repairs or anything like that. Shit, not even accounting for navalizing the F-22.... You're at $4T (really $3.8T but still)... fack, it's over $1.5B per F-22! $68,362 per hour X 20,000 hours = $1,367,240,000 lifetime operating cost per $138,000,000 per F-22 + $1,367,240,000 lifetime operating cost = $1,505,240,000 total cost per jet $1,505,240,000 total per jet X 2500 F-22s = $3,763,100,000,000 buying/operating fleet $68,000,000,000 R&D + $3,763,100,000,000 buying/operating fleet = $3,831,100,000,000 total program cost I threw up a bit in my mouth
  • Did you read my comment? I used the F-22 as an example, as well as the Eurofighter, and then spoke generally about its cost compared to other aircraft of similar capability. I wasnt just comparing it to the f-22... And pointing out how the f-22 is more expensive DOES rebuke the narrative about the f-35 being the most unreasonably expensive aircraft program ever... I also didnt "prove" anything, I was merely pointing out how misleading it is to talk about the life-cycle cost of a huge fleet of aircraft when we rarely discuss other aircrafts' cost in similar fashion.
  • They really should have made a carrier variant of the f-22 like originally planned and made the f35 just a jump-jet.
  • Man those artist renderings were gorgeous
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