French soldiers under the Eiffel Tower after terrorist attack in Paris, 1/7/2015 [988x679]


Yep, only the patrol leader has a magazine in their rifle, but no bullet is had by him in the chamber. The others have their magazines available but not in their guns. But with the state that is highest of alert in purchase ...



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  • Yep, only the patrol leader has a magazine in his rifle, but he has no bullet in the chamber. The others have their magazines available but not in their guns. But with the highest state of alert in order now in and around Paris, it might have changed.
  • Is there a reason for this? It seems to me like if you're on the lookout for shooters, you should have a loaded gun in case they appear.
  • They are not on the lookout for a shooter, they are deployed to reassure the population and (hopefully never) be of assistance in case of an attack in heavily touristic areas as part of "Plan Vigipirate". The reason for not having a loaded gun is to prevent unwanted weapon discharge: they are in civilian areas, with no police or crowd control training. Their rules of engagement are pretty strict: only shoot if fired upon or in case of huge emergency. Basically they are more a reassuring force than anything else. Here so police officers can patrol elsewhere / not be used only as patrol.
  • So they're on patrol for moral reinforcement?
  • That's how I understand it: given their ROE, the fact that they have only one loaded weapon for a patrol, that they have no police power whatsoever and no real police training. I think the main ideas were: To show that the state is here and protecting its citizens and tourists. To release police officers from "just" patrolling.
  • To release police officers from "just" patrolling. This makes perfect sense, but I find it kind of funny. "We need to send the usual guys to catch the hyper-violent bad guys... So while they do that lets take our hyper-violent good guys and use them to cover for our regular good guys." Whoa be to the j-walker!
  • Well, think of it like that: "Let's take as many of our crimefighting professionals as possible and put them to work on a high-profile high-importance crime; and use our warfighting-professionals as stand-ins for the deterrence role that the former are usually expected to fulfill."
  • Even cops don't target jaywalkers. Everyone jaywalks, in fact we don't even have a word for it.
  • Whoa be to the j-walker! I can't help but imagine a jaywalker going "Whoa!" 🙂 Woe?
  • Yeah... I didn't have my morning caffeine yet!
  • Just messin with ya bud 🙂
  • Woe*
  • It's also a form of terrain denial. You know those guys aren't stupid and they aren't going to go somewhere with Regular Army.
  • Yes, and as a deterrent. If something did go down, they'd be ready in seconds.
  • Frankly, I'd much rather this be the situation. It takes only seconds to ram a mag into the gun and ready it for action, but if it's already loaded you end up with American-style loose cannon bullshit when a random brown tourist pulls out a cellphone. Either that or Jean-Charles de Menezes style hsit where a guy's late for his train and ends up a greasy smear on the metro platform.
  • Awesome, thank you
  • Well, I think it works. I'd definitely feel safer with friendly troops in the area.
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