Well that certainly makes CIWS more comprehensible. Quite a few enemies' advanced anti-ship missiles approach subsonically, then release a sprint that is supersonic with an HE payload that ...
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- Well that certainly makes CIWS more comprehensible.
- Many of our enemies' advanced anti-ship missiles approach subsonically, and then release a supersonic sprint vehicle with an HE payload that is capable of surface skimming and high-G turns. CIWS is really just an expensive alarm to expect incoming molten metal. Anti-ship missiles is one area in which the U.S. Navy is 20+ years behind our enemies. It should be addressed by our Admirals and our Congress, but instead we still rely on old, slow Harpoon missiles.
- Anti-ship missiles is one area in which the U.S. Navy is 20+ years behind our enemies. We're the ones with ships worth attacking. Since the US Navy controls all of the world's sea lanes, the most plausible scenario is clearly an enemy looking to sink our ships, not the other way around.
- The US Navy is larger than all the other navies in the world combined
- That's not true no matter which way you slice it, unless you are abusing the word "large" to mean "powerful" or something.
- Ok it's bigger than the next 13 biggest combined. Had to re-check my facts. The US has 10 aircraft carriers with two in reserve. The rest of the world has 8.
- Yeah but the whole aircraft carrier situation is the primary reason why you cannot top the US Navy. It's a Navy and an Air Force all in one. Plus you really could in some sense count on the fact that Navy and Marines work hand in hand. US Navy + US Navy Air Power + US Marines = "more extensive" lets say, than many other navies combined.
- Whats the saying about boomer submarines? A single one could be considered the third most powerful nuclear power in the world?
- How does that work?
- A US (Ohio class, I think) nuclear ballistic missile submarine would be ranked the 3rd strongest nuclear power on earth, the US and Russia being 1st and 2nd. They carry a few dozen missiles, and each one is loaded with multiple independent warheads. It works because the after the US and Russia, no other country was stupid enough to try and build more then a comparatively tiny stock pile, since they were probably an alley of Nato or Warsaw already.
- CIWS is replaced by rolling airframe and SM6, more than capable of dealing with current antiship threats. we will also be demoing SSL IN 2017, which is going to be a total game changer
- SM-6 is an upgrade to the Standard line and is not capable of engaging close threats. Vertically launched missiles don't even tip over and arm within the range of a close-in threat. RAM is deployed on high-value units only for the most part. And I'm unaware of (though would like to hear about) any plans for replacement of CIWS with RAM on small combatants. The replacement of VLS cranes with ESSM seems like a better example of a capable CIWS replacement. SSL has amazing potential, but it will take time to demo and transition from prototype to full-scale deployment - maybe a decade or even more.
- I believe "cruise missile" and "rocket powered" are not mutually exclusive. "Rocket powered" just means its engine is a rocket. I.e. it carries oxidizer internally (e.g. liquid oxygen, for instance) rather than from the atmosphere, through an intake, like a jet engine. "Cruise missile" just means a guided missile that flies like an airplane (i.e. using lift generated by wings, rather than in a ballistic trajectory, like a... well, a ballistic missile). Doesn't mean the engine has to be a jet engine. You could have a rocket engine powering it if you really wanted to. Of course, since there is no reason for a cruise missile to have a super high operating ceiling, where there is insufficient oxygen, it doesn't make much sense to use rocket engines.
- Indeed - it's a little (low bypass) turbofan. Always wanted to get my hands on a small turbine like that. Although its not designed for longevity. Only for the maximum range in a one-off use. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Williams_F107
- Bonus trivia, it has a small rocket booster to get it up and out of the water before the jet kicks in...
- This is always fun to watch even if you've seen it already. Edit: 2:33 is the best part.
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